Homan reacts to his explosive hearing on migrant detention centers


TELLING “THE WASHINGTON EXAMINER” THE DECISION TO INVESTIGATE MCALEENAN IS, QUOTE, VERY DISTURBING.>>>WELL, IT WAS AN INTENSE DAY, TO SAY THE LEAST, ON CAPITOL HILL TODAY AS FORMER ACTING I.C.E. DIRECTOR TOM HOMAN DELIVERED AN IMPASSIONED DEFENSE OF BORDER PATROL AGENTS, RIPPING INTO THE INACTION OF CONGRESSIONAL LAWMAKERS. LISTEN TO THIS EXCHANGE WITH ILLINOIS DEMOCRAT JESUS GARCIA.>>MR. HOMAN, I’M A FATHER. DO YOU HAVE CHILDREN? HOW CAN YOU POSSIBLY ALLOW THIS TO HAPPEN UNDER YOUR WATCH? DO YOU NOT CARE? IS IT BECAUSE THESE CHILDREN DON’T LOOK LIKE CHILDREN THAT ARE AROUND YOU? IF I DON’T GET IT. HAVE YOU EVER HELD A DECEASED CHILD IN YOUR ARMS?>>FIRST OF ALL, YOUR COMMENTS ARE DISGUSTING. I’VE SERVED –>>I FIND YOUR COMMENTS –>>MY COUNTRY 34 YEARS. I’VE SERVED MY COUNTRY FOR 34 YEARS AND, YEAH, I HELD A 5-YEAR-OLD BOY IN MY ARMS IN THE BACK OF THAT TRACTOR-TRAILER. I KNELT DOWN BESIDE HIM AND SAID A PRAYER FOR HIM BECAUSE I KNEW WHAT HIS LAST 30 MINUTES OF LIFE WERE LIKE, AND I HAD A 5-YEAR-OLD SON AT THE TIME. MY MISSION IS TO SAVE LIVES. SO FOR YOU TO SIT THERE AND INSULT MY INTEGRITY AND MY LOVE FOR MY COUNTRY AND FOR CHILDREN, THAT’S WHY THIS WHOLE THING NEEDS TO BE FIXED. AND YOU’RE THE MEMBER — THE.>>[INAUDIBLE] ING.>>FIX IT.>>WE AGREE ON. THAT BUT I DISAGREE –>>THE ORDER. ORDER. [INAUDIBLE CONVERSATIONS]>>GENTLEMAN’S TIME HAS EXPIRED. GREGG: JOINING ME NOW IS THAT GENTLEMAN, TOM HOMAN, FORMER ACTING DIRECTOR OF IMMIGRATION AND CUSTOM ENFORCEMENT. HE’S ALSO A FOX BUSINESS CONTRIBUTOR. DIRECTOR HOMAN, THANK YOU FOR BEING WITH US. IT WAS QUITE A DAY TODAY. THE TREATMENT OF YOU WAS NOTHING SHORT OF APPALLING, IN PARTICULAR JESUS GARCIA WHO ACCUSED YOU OF BEING RACIST, WHICH IS WHAT UNINFORMED PEOPLE DO WHEN THEY DON’T HAVE A GOOD ARGUMENT, IT APPEARS TO ME THAT REPRESENTATIVE GARCIA IS THE RACIST HERE, AND YOU CLEARLY SAID YOU WERE DISGUSTED BY IT. HOW MANY LIVES HAVE BEEN SAVED BY BORDER PATROL AGENTS, SIR?>>JUST THIS PAST YEAR THEY SAVED OVER 4,000 LIVES, BUT NO ONE WANTED TO TALK ABOUT THAT TODAY. AND, YES, I WAS INSULTED BY HIM AND MANY OTHERS. REPRESENTATIVE GERALD CONNOLLY FROM VIRGINIA. YOU KNOW, HE THREW OUT DIRT AND WOULDN’T LET ME RESPOND. IT WAS ABOUT POLITICAL THEATER. HE RAN OUT OF THERE LIKE A LITTLE GIRL. HE’S A COWARD. HE DIDN’T WANT TO HEAR MY RESPONSE. THESE PEOPLE DON’T WANT THE AMERICAN PEOPLE TO HEAR THE TRUTH. I SAID SEVERAL TIMES IN THIS HEARING THIS IS ABOUT TRANSPARENCY, BUT YOU WON’T MET ME RESPOND TO WHAT YOU’RE SAYING. IF THIS IS THE FOCUS OF CONGRESS, TO PUSH A FALSE NARRATIVE AND NOT LET SOMEONE LIKE ME WHO SPENT 34 YEARS ON THAT BORDER SPEAK TO ISSUE, THAT TELLS YOU WHAT THIS IS ALL ABOUT. THIS IS ABOUT RESISTING THIS PRESIDENT, ABOUT OPEN BORDERS. THEY DON’T WANT TO HEAR THE TRUTH. GREG GREG WELL, AND I COMMEND YOU FOR SAYING THAT THEY SHOULD BE ASHAMED OF THEMSELVES. INDEED, THEY SHOULD. YOU KNOW, A DIRECTOR FOR THE LONG TIME, MOSTLY DEMOCRATS WERE SAYING, OH, THERE’S NO PROBLEM AT THE BORDER, THERE’S NO CRISIS AT THE BORDER, IT’S ALL A MANUFACTURED CRISIS. WELL, NOW THEY’VE CHANGED THEIR TUNE, HAVEN’T THEY?>>ABSOLUTELY, AND THEY’RE TALKING ABOUT THE APPALLING CONDITIONS IN DETENTION. AND NOW IT’S CLEAR TO THEM. I SAID THAT’S BECAUSE YOU FAILED. THE SECRETARY OF HOMELAND SECURITY ALONG WITH THE HEAD OF BORDER PATROL HAS BEEN ASKING FOR MONTHS FOR SUPPLEMENTAL FUNDING TO MOVE PEOPLE, WOMEN AND CHILDREN — FACILITIES AREN’T BUILT FOR THEM — THEY’VE BEEN BEGGING THEM FOR MONEY, BUT THEY JUST KEPT DENYING AND DENYING AND DENYING THEM. EVEN AFTER THEY FINALLY DID APPROVE THE FUNDING, YOU’VE GOT ALEXANDRIA OCASIO-CORTEZ THAT DIDN’T SUPPORT THE FUNDING TO MAKE THE CONDITIONS BETTER. AND SHE’S STILL TALKING ABOUT DETENTION CONDITIONS ON THE SOUTHWEST BORDER. AND WE WOULDN’T HAVE ANY OF THIS. THERE WASN’T CONDITIONS ON THE SOUTHWEST BORDER THAT WOULD BE UNWELCOMING TO THESE WOMEN AND CHILDREN IF THEY WOULD HAVE DONE THEIR JOBS AND CLOSING LOOPHOLES WE’VE ASKED THEM TO CLOSE FOR TWO YEARS. GREGG: YEAH. YOU MENTIONED ALEXANDRIA OCASIO-CORTEZED TODAY WHO DEMANDED THAT SHE BE SWORN IN TO TESTIFY, WHICH SEEMED TO CONFUSE THE CHAIRMAN BECAUSE, YOU KNOW, THAT’S NOT NORMALLY WHAT HAPPENS SINCE YOU’RE A MEMBER OF CONGRESS. I WANT TO PLAY A CLIP AND THEN GET YOUR REACTION. HERE IT IS.>>IF I GET ARRESTED FOR DUI AND I HAVE A YOUNG CHILD IN THE CAR, I’M GOING TO BE SEPARATED. I WAS A POLICE OFFICER IN NEW YORK, AND I ARRESTED A FATHER FOR DOMESTIC VIOLENCE –>>MR. HOMAN, WITH ALL DUE RESPECT, LEGAL A ASIGH LEES ARE NOT CHARGED WITH ANY CRIME.>>WHEN YOU’RE IN THE COUNTRY ILLEGALLY, IT’S VIOLATION OF UNITED STATES CODE –>>SEEKING A ASYLUM IS LEGAL.>>YOU WANT TO SEEK ASYLUM, GO THROUGH THE PORT OF ENTRY AND DO IT THE LEGAL WAY. THE ATTORNEY GENERAL OF THE UNITED STATES HAS MADE THAT CLEAR.>>OKAY. GREGG: UNLAWFUL PRESENCE IN THE UNITED STATES IS NOT A CRIME, BUT YOU ARE CORRECT, SIR, THAT COMING INTO THE UNITED STATES ILLEGALLY IS A CRIME. SNEAKING ACROSS THE BORDER IS A CRIME. SO AOC WAS ENGAGING IN HER TYPICALLY INANE COMMENTS — [LAUGHTER] AND, YOU KNOW, AND SHE’S THE ONE WHO CONTINUES TO DECRY CONDITIONS AT THE BORDER, AND YET SHE VOTED HELL NO WHEN IT CAME TIME FOR A $4.5, 4.6 BILLION IN FUNDING TO RELIEVE THE CONDITIONS AT THE BORDER. SHE’S NOTHING BUT A HYPOCRITE, CORRECT?>>OH, ABSOLUTELY. AND, LOOK, EVERY TIME SHE OPENS HER MOUTH, SHE’S WRONG. I’VE NEVER HEARD HER SPEAK ONE TIME ON IMMIGRATION AND SHE BE ACCURATE. I’M A LAW ENFORCEMENT OFFICER, BUT IT’S ASTOUNDING THAT A MEMBER OF CONGRESS, A LEGISLATOR DOES NOT REALIZE ENTERING THIS COUNTRY IS A CRIME. SHE OUGHT TO DO HER HOMEWORK BEFORE SHE STARTS SAYING THINGS THAT AREN’T TRUE. SHE’S THE WORST POLITICIAN IN THAT COMMITTEE, AND, YOU KNOW, SHE DOESN’T KNOW FACT FROM FICTION, AND, YOU KNOW, SHE’S BEEN A CONGRESSMAN FOR SIX MONTHS. APPARENTLY, SHE’S AN EXPERT AT EVERYTHING, BUT SHE’S AN EXPERT AT NOTHING. GREGG: YEAH. SHE WAS A BARTENDER LESS THAN A YEAR AGO. NOT THAT I HAVE ANYTHING AGAINST PEOPLE — [LAUGHTER] BARTENDERS AND WAITRESSES, BUT IT DOESN’T MAKE YOU AN EXPERT ON EVERYTHING. MOST FRESHMEN MEMBERS OF CONGRESS KNOW TO KEEP THEIR MOUTH SHUT, TO LEARN, TO OBSERVE, TO LISTEN, BUT NO, SHE’S AN EXPERT ON EVERYTHING. WANT TO GO TO A MOMENT NOW WHERE YOU WERE SHOWING PHOTOGRAPHS OF CHILDREN AND ELDERLY PEOPLE WHO HAD BEEN VICTIMIZED VIOLENTLY BY ILLEGAL IMMIGRANTS. TALKTOUS ABOUT THAT. TALK TO US ABOUT THAT.>>THERE IS A, YOU KNOW, THEY TALKED ABOUT FAMILY SEPARATIONS DURING THE ZERO TOLERANCE THING AND, OF COURSE, IT’S SAD WHEN A CHILD’S SEPARATED FROM A PARENT. BUT THE PARENT’S BEING PROSECUTED, AND THAT HAPPENS TO AMERICAN FAMILIES EVERY DAY. AND THE SEPARATIONS, EVEN THOUGH UNFORTUNATE, IT’S A NECESSARY PART OF THE LEGAL SYSTEM. IF YOU AND I GOT ARRESTED FOR DUI AND WE HAD A CHILD IN THE CAR, WE’RE GOING TO GO TO JAIL, AND THAT CHILD’S GOING TO GO TO CPS. IS SO I BROUGHT MY OWN PICTURES OF SEPARATION. THESE WERE CHILDREN THAT WERE KILLED BY ILLEGAL ALIENS, SOME RELEASED IN SANCTUARY CITIES AND BECAUSE OF THE OPEN BORDERS AND ALL THIS TALK DEMOCRATS HAVE, TRIED TO SHOW A COUPLE OF EXAMPLES. ONE WAS A FIVE-MONTH-OLD BABY THAT WAS RAPED, SEXUALLY PENETRATED BY AN ILLEGAL ALIEN AND MURDERED. A 5-YEAR-OLD GIRL THAT WAS RAPED AND MURDERED, A 93-YEAR-OLD LADY THAT WAS RAPED MULTIPLE TIMES AND MURDERED. I AGREE, CHILD SEPARATIONS ARE SAD, BUT THAT’S A TEMPORARY SEPARATION BECAUSE THE PARENT’S BEING PROSECUTED. HERE’S SOME SEPARATIONS THAT ARE FOREVER. THESE PARENTS WILL NEVER SEE THESE CHILDREN AGAIN, AND THEY DIED A HORRIFIC DEATH. SO IF YOU WANT TO SHIFT GEARS FOR, YOU KNOW, THOSE SEPARATIONS, I GET IT. BUT HOW ABOUT SHEDDING SOME TEARS FOR U.S. CITIZENS THAT HAVE BEEN MURDERED, CHILDREN THAT HAVE BEEN MURDERED BY THE ILLEGAL ALIENS? I’VE MET WITH THESE ANGEL MOMS AND DADS, EVERY STORY’S TRAGIC. BUT THEY DON’T WANT TO TALK ABOUT THAT. THEY WANT TO KEEP PUSHING THEIR FALSE NARRATIVE TO AMERICAN PEOPLE, AND I WASN’T GOING TO ALLOW IT TODAY. I WASN’T GOING TO ALLOW IT. GREGG: AND REPRESENTATIVES TALIB AND PRESLEY FINISH TALIB WAS IN TEARS TODAY, YOU KNOW, BECAUSE USING THE TERM ALL LEGAL IMMIGRANT IS DEROGATORY AND DEMEANING, AND SHE SEEMED TO BE BLAMING YOU AND OTHERS, AND YET SHE — SHE’S SO DUMB SHE DOESN’T REALIZE IT’S ACTUALLY IN THE LAW THAT CONGRESS WROTE, ILLEGAL ALIEN. AND YOU CITED THE STATUTE, AND THERE’S ANOTHER ONE AS WELL. SHE HAD TO LOOK THEM UP. SHE WANTS TO CHANGE THAT LANGUAGE, SHE OUGHT TO CHANGE IT HERSELF. SHE’S A MEMBER OF CONGRESS. CONGRESS CREATED THAT LAW WITH THAT LANGUAGE.>>ABSOLUTELY. THERE’S ANOTHER CONGRESSMAN WHO DOESN’T KNOW THE LAW. I MEAN, ILLEGAL ALIEN IS CLEARLY SPELLED OUT NOT ONLY IN TITLE VIII OF THE UNITED STATES CODE, THE IMMIGRATION NATIONALITY ACT WHICH, I CAN SAY, WAS ENACTED BY CONGRESS WHO SHE’S A PART OF. GREGG: RIGHT.>>DO YOUR HOMEWORK. BEFORE YOU GET OUT THERE AND ATTACK THIS ADMINISTRATION, THE MEN AND WOMEN OF I.C.E. AND THE BORDER PATROL, DO YOUR HOMEWORK. AT LEAST DO THAT SO YOU CAN BE ACCURATE AND TRUTH THEFUL TO THE AMERICAN PEOPLE. GREGG: DON’T YOU KNOW THE MOD

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